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Lotte Invense vs Daedong Dasup
   

Brendan & Ning
Posted: 19 May 2013 - 04:35 AM
Hi Everyone,

We are in process to finalise our move, and having spend this week looking at apartments we are only down to 2, not a lot of options at the moment. We would like any thoughts to our pro/con lists, and if anyone has any experience with either of these, or the areas love to hear.

Lotte Invense (Gohyeon)
Pro: Central to shops/town, no need for driving to go out. Close to Homeplus. Large Kitchen area, good room layout.
Cons: Older residence, no gym facility area. Only 3 bedroom, no study area.

Daedong Dasup (Aju)
Pros: Very new and modern, ok gym and facilities on site. Quite close to OIS. 4 bedroom + study, large apartment. Cheaper of the 2, but not a lot of difference.
Cons: Nothing yet around it, quite isolated, need to drive everywhere. Large open space area, harder to keep warm/cool.

We are on the waitlist for OIS, like many people it seems, but our daughter is only due to go in Sept, so we are hoping.
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money talks
Posted: 21 May 2013 - 06:58 PM
This is an incredibley unfair situation (I know money certainly does the talking at BIFS too!). I am wondering what the Council of International Schools would say if they knew children were being penalised and actually loosing their place on waiting lists simply because their father worked for a company that was willing to pay whether that child came or not. This seems highly unethical given foreign children arriving on Geoje have no other school to choose from (other than travelling long distances and paying substanially more in school fees). Would the CIS want to accrediate such a school? Okpo School went down the accrediation road with the CIS once before. It was turned down because of lack of transparancy in the accounts! If you believe the current OIS web page this was after it became a not for profit organisation! & changed its name to OIS!!(the history on the web page is a joke, total fantasy!!). Maybe the Council of International Schools shoulbe told of the waiting list situation?? & what basically amounts to bribes from companys in order to hold school places at the ONLY foreign school on the Island.
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Da soop resident
Posted: 23 May 2013 - 11:21 PM
Hi. We live in Da soop, Aju and like it here. I don't know anything about the other apartment complex you mention though. You do need to be able to drive here but there are a lot of new shops and korean restaurants etc popping up in Aju within walking distance.
There is a corner shop and a few other chicken take away restaurants in Da soop and lots of play grounds for kids. Driving to OIS is usually less than 10 minutes. Driving into Okpo in the early evening takes longer due to traffic.
You can walk to DSME/ Okpo along the river but it's quite a walk espec for kids.
Add any specific questions and I'll try to answer. Hope that helps.
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Da soop resident
Posted: 23 May 2013 - 11:27 PM
I forgot to add there is a da soop bus. Not ideal times for OIS but ok for a trip into Okpo.
Also no problems keeping our place cool/warm with under floor heating and A/C. Be worth checking if 3rd/4th bedroom has AC and whether owner would be ok to fit it if not, as the regs for one side of the building often won't allow it.
Some of the play areas are in the shade at certain times of day, but as most outdoor areas in Aju are quite new there aren't many large green areas aside from the surrounding mountains.
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Da soop resident
Posted: 23 May 2013 - 11:37 PM
I forgot to add there is a da soop bus. Not ideal times for OIS but ok for a trip into Okpo.
Also no problems keeping our place cool/warm with under floor heating and A/C. Be worth checking if 3rd/4th bedroom has AC and whether owner would be ok to fit it if not, as the regs for one side of the building often won't allow it.
Some of the play areas are in the shade at certain times of day, but as most outdoor areas in Aju are quite new there aren't many large green areas aside from the surrounding mountains.
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Brendan & Ning
Posted: 27 May 2013 - 07:33 AM
Dear All,

Thanks for all the info. Certainly lloks like fun times ahead for us.
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Clarity on Shell/OIS
Posted: 01 June 2013 - 07:46 PM
Actually, the generous support from Shell has allowed OIS to open more spaces for more children; not only children whose parents work for Shell. There is a waiting list for certain classes. The school doesn't over fill classes and cannot control which age groups come to the island. OIS has grown tremendously this school year, in numbers and in their education programs. The staff, overall, are dedicated and quite professional. The new principal has proven himself to be dedicated and continues to drive improvements at the school across the board.

As they say, you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please them all. OIS has an extremely diverse student body and meeting the needs of each individual student can be challenging, at best. All of the staff at OIS work hard to support the children entrusted to their care and for the most part, parents are very supportive and typically express positive opinions about the school.
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Brendan & Ning
Posted: 01 June 2013 - 11:36 PM
Thanks Clarity,

Hope that there will be extra spaces for the lower levels in the near future as I hear the waiting list is now over 15 for the youngest class, and with all the moving over summer, I guess more people are going to be looking soon.
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Val
Posted: 04 June 2013 - 01:44 AM
Brendan & Ning,

Either 'Clarity' works for Shell/Inpex or is the principal of OIS himself.

"The generous support of Shell" is only to serve their own interests.

The only reason that others have been able to obtain places is that Inpex and Shell need more spaces than the current classes can hold. In certain years (especially the lower levels), there is adequate space for Inpex and Shell, so no additional classes have been offered. It had nothing to do with "The school doesn't over fill classes and cannot control which age groups come to the island". The real reason is that the lower levels already had two classes per year and enough are leaving out of both classes in that year so this is adequate for Inpex and Shell's new students.

The stark reality is that the school is full and no further classes wlll be accommodated. Full, except a few free places being allocated to Inpex and Shell, just in case they need them later in the year. Thy might take them......and they might not. Places that could be offered to other clients of SHI & DSME.

The new principal and school board (which include VP's of SHI and DSME (who must have been privee to this dubious deal)) do not have the best interests of all children, only those of Shell and Inpex.

As 'Money talks' has stated, "This seems highly unethical given foreign children arriving on Geoje have no other school to
choose from". (other than drive long distances)

When the vast majority of students come from clients of DSME & SHI and two of those clients are able to make an exclusive deal it can only be viewed in a very underhanded manner.

It is appalling that such a corrupt system exists for our children's education, and surprise, surprise....... Shell is involved!
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Clarity
Posted: 06 June 2013 - 06:19 AM
I am neither the principal nor an employee of any of the companies mentioned. I do know that some of the assumptions here are completely off base. Regardless of who I am, it's only fair to offer another point of view, isn't it? You have your opinion and I have mine. Having seen wonderful changes and improvements at the school, people should be able to make informed decisions.

As for some classes being full, maybe you are referring to the Reception and Early Years classes? Not sure, but if that is the case you may do yourself a favor by informing yourself about what is developmentally appropriate as far as class sizes in early childhood settings. In addition, the school has only so much space and cramming more children than is appropriate into one teachers class wouldn't be fair to the children nor would it be appropriate, period.

When I used the term "generous" it was a reference to the money, not the heart or soul of the people running Shell. I don't know those people so I can't speak to their motives.
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