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Melody
Posted: 06 April 2008 - 03:37 PM
I will be moving to Okpo in the next couple of months and am considering homeschooling my daughter. I'm wondering if there are any parents who homeschool their kids, any support groups, anything like that.
Mel
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kik
Posted: 07 June 2009 - 09:45 PM
Hi, I just found these forums.

Did you move here? ARe you homeschooling? I do not send my daughter to the OKPO school, she is 4.

I haven't decided about next year. I would like to meet you if you are on Geoje island

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heather
Posted: 19 October 2009 - 07:41 PM
Did the two of you connect regarding home schooling? My two small children and I will be joining my husband in Okpo in January. We plan to home school the kids. Although they are not very old (4 and 2) I have enjoyed learning about home schooling in Austin, TX through the group here.
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Check K12
Posted: 24 November 2009 - 07:56 AM
If you are considering Home schooling,

check www.k12.com

this site will help you a lot.
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Curious
Posted: 07 June 2011 - 03:03 AM
Jus out of curiosity, why would you want homeschool your children? What are the advantages of home-schooling? Isnt it better for kids to be amongst other kids, socialise, play and so on?
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and curiouser
Posted: 05 July 2011 - 01:17 PM
Kids can be with other kids, play etc whether or not they attend a school building.
There are many benefits to home-schooling, for example parents know what their children are being taught, how accurate it is, how well supervised they and the other children are and so on. There is also the consistency of being taught by the same person/people - with home-schooling the children (and their parents) are unlikely to experience their teacher quitting or being fired without notice, for example.
There are many reasons why families around the world choose home-schooling, even when viable alternatives are locally available. But in areas where there is no school or schools are poorly run or have difficulty attracting/retaining qualified, competent staff, then families must choose between home-schooling, many hours a week of travelling for the kids, boarding school or relocating (some or all of the family). These are decisions the ex-pat community of Geoje are all too familiar with.
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Van
Posted: 07 July 2011 - 04:59 PM
"for example parents know what their children are being taught"

funny. because parents are so much more educated than teachers right?
and so much at better teaching their child than a trained professional.
you must be an American with your distaste and distrust of teachers.
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Raw Nerve
Posted: 08 July 2011 - 07:07 PM
Is someone taking a general discussion about educational options a bit too personally?

Seems perhaps someone might need a few sessions with a different kind of professional.

There's no need to resort hurling insults at other people and xenophobia is just not cool, man - this is a community club which is open to all nationalities.
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Trained Professional
Posted: 08 July 2011 - 10:51 PM
Following years of education, attaining professional qualifications and experience in my field, I have respect for my fellow professionals in all fields, even if I don't see eye to eye with individuals on all issues.
In my opinion it depreciates the professions when the title of engineer/doctor/lawyer/teacher/etc is handed out to unqualified people or those who don't demonstrate a commitment to upholding professional standards simply because they happen to be available at short notice or are prepared to be associated with sub-standard output as it means an easy ride for them.
My kids are now educated at schools back in our home country, so I don't think I have a distaste and distrust of teachers, trained professional teachers. I also have respect for other parents who in similar circumstances to those I have faced made different choices for their children.
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impression
Posted: 10 July 2011 - 09:56 PM
One of the ongoing problems is that many(not all) school teachers in foreign lands ie Korea come accross as nothing more than glorified "backpackers" with some form of qualification and attempt to teach our kids.This is a real shame and no wonder people are opting to teach at home.
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and curiouser
Posted: 11 July 2011 - 12:29 AM
Teachers, like any employee of any organisation (state run or private, profit making or non-profit), approach their work with individual levels of motivation and competence. Some are great, some are perfectly acceptable, some are in need of training and professional development and some really should consider another line of work - for everyone's benefit.
One of the ways a parent might gauge which of the above categories staff at their child's school fall into is the style, content and frequency of home-school communication. In the absence of effective lines of communication, parents probably wouldn't know what their child was being taught let alone be able to fathom if the staff members were accurately assessing what the children were learning (which, for the uninitiated, cannot be assumed to match that which you think you taught them, making a working knowledge of methods of assessment an essential aspect of any claim to being an educational professional).
If what little home-school communication there was had to be petitioned for rather than being offered, was shown to be factually inaccurate or contained threatening or abusive messages, parents are likely to be concerned, irrespective of nationality.
I'm curious to know, where on Geoje I might find an educational organisation (independently accredited school or other provision) which admits English speaking children where only trained professionals are given the job title "teacher"? So far as I'm aware there isn't one here. Distaste for and distrust of what is available is hardly unique to Americans, "Van".
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At Van
Posted: 13 July 2011 - 02:44 AM
Van, i think any kind of education, home or state, would be of benefit you.
Your incoherent rant has no sentance structure, is merely a series of statments and the only bit that did happen to be grammatically correct was the bit you copied from the previous comment.
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Pedant
Posted: 14 July 2011 - 02:54 AM
Van, i think any kind of education, home or state, would be of benefit you.
Your incoherent rant has no sentance structure, is merely a series of statments and the only bit that did happen to be grammatically correct was the bit you copied from the previous comment.


Oh dear, hope you're not home schooling!
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at pedant
Posted: 14 July 2011 - 08:54 PM


Ah, cnosrtcuitve crtissim at i'ts finest. Coodn't bee bthred wth speling, wood much rther ave the baesic gramticl strooctoore to bee capible of cohearantlee espressin meeself in sum kynd of aknoleged form rather than joost makin trolling statemnts :)

P.S. Kids are fully paid for at GIFS :) and i have secretaries to do my typing :)
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i agree
Posted: 14 July 2011 - 09:30 PM
I agree, Trollers aren't needed on here.At Van maybe you could have spell checked first to keep pedant and other trollers happy ?

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It came with my Pea Sea.
It plane lee marks four my revue
Miss Steaks I can knot sea.

Eye strike the quays and type a whirred
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am write oar wrong
It tells me straight a weigh.

Eye ran this poem threw it,
Your shore real glad two no.
Its vary polished in its weigh.
My chequer tolled me sew.
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Pedant
Posted: 14 July 2011 - 11:13 PM
I was merely making the point that At Van had highlighted poor sentence structure and lack of grammar.

I found the irony rather amusing.
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Observations
Posted: 18 July 2011 - 07:22 AM
Has anyone else noticed Van has no issue with any of the other points made in the post which prompted his rant? Neither the accuracy of what is taught, nor how well supervised children are nor the consistency of being taught by the same person/people seem to be an issue for him. Schools being poorly run or failing to attract/retain qualified, competent staff also not something he concerns himself with. Suggesting parents should know about their children's day is like a red rag to a bull. Seems a bit unbalanced to me.

His distaste for and distrust of parents reminds me of someone else on these forums recently screaming about parents being unqualified to have opinions about their children's education: http://www.gfra.net/forums___classifieds/?msgbrd=3&topic=489

So far as I'm aware there is no state education in Korea for people who don't speak Korean. If you want educated in English you have to choose between the private schools or home education. Whether or not either of these options results in people who can construct sentences, spell or have a functional command of English grammar, we can perhaps take some comfort from the knowledge that this won't rule out making big bucks as an ex-pat inspector.
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Honest
Posted: 18 July 2011 - 05:43 PM
Lets be honest here:
The majority of people who school their children at the local foreigners school do so because there employers pay for it.

There are many other very good education options in Korea for children of all ages. However this may involve putting ones hand in ones pocket.

Just for the previous poster NOT ALL EXPAT INSPECTORS MAKE "BIG BUCKS" out here.
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Why not?
Posted: 19 July 2011 - 06:27 AM
A child's development doesn't solely revolve around academic improvement. It is equally important that a child develops socially. There are markers for social development that can only be obtained through frequent contact with peers from toddler-hood through to adulthood.

A child whose social development is impaired through parental isolation is more likely to suffer from a lack of mechanisms to cope and operate independently when they come to adulthood.

It is easy to supplement your child's academic education at home. In most public schools and many comprehensive schools, children undertake tuition outside school hours.

Why not allow your child to see the world, meet their peers, scrape their knees! As long as you instil in them a sense of good and right, and be there for them, they'll be fine.
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Because I'm the parent
Posted: 20 July 2011 - 11:34 PM
A child's development doesn't solely revolve around academic improvement. It is equally important that a child develops physically, emotionally, socially etc. There are markers for all sorts of things, often different markers in different places and usually different markers at different times. In those different places and different times there are usually different people assessing evidence against those markers - school inspectors for example have a valuable role to play in ensuring schools are well managed and providing an appropriate environment, support and opportunities for children's learning and value for money.

A child whose social development is impaired through spending their days observing, perhaps mimicking, the behaviour of poorly supervised children of the same age (with the same lack of life experience), occasionally but not consistently guided towards inappropriate responses by a not quite grown up who couldn't get a job anywhere else and spending their evenings cramming academics into their tired, stressed-out heads is hardly likely have the time to figure out how to cope and operate independently when they come to adulthood.

It is easy to attend your child's physical, emotional and academic development at home. Social and cultural development tends to take place in the wider community on a foundation established in the home. Good schools can also contribute to the growth and development of children. In many communities children undertake free play outside school hours.

Why not allow your child to see the world (say by moving to a new continent every other year, though less extreme measures work just as well), meet their peers and other members of the community (in any number of different situations), scrape their knees (preferably while enjoying the great outdoors, not because they are indoors in the care of someone who doesn't have an elementary understanding of the concept of health and safety or risk analysis)! As long as you instil in them a sense of good and right, and be there for them, they'll be fine.

If you are ever a parent of school age children, hopefully you will understand.
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angry parent of high school kids.
Posted: 12 September 2011 - 08:19 PM
I am busy homeschooling my two older children, at this stage i do not feel that i can let them travel over an hour each day to get to a high school - i would have thought by now Okpo would have a international high school. All new expats with high school kids are going through this problem - do we home school or put them on a long bus journey - that is the one problem - the next is the high school fees and list of entrance fees - my husbands company does not pay anything towards our school fees. so I guess for now i will have to continue home schooling -

Is there anyone else that is homeschooling? can we arrange to get together with the kids ???

I also have a 4 yr old - she will probably go to a korean school as they are more affordable.

I know teachers deserve a high salary as they do a wonderful job, but do we really have to pay 6 months fees up front ?? along with all the enrolment fees etc?
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another angry parent!
Posted: 13 September 2011 - 05:49 AM
Dear Angry!

Its not just you new expats who are going through this!

Our family left Okpo, a town we had loved living in for 10 years, to come to Busan August 2009. This was purely for the school for our, at the time, middle school aged daughter.

This was all at our own expence, we do not get school fees paid. The fees here in Busan are ridiculously high by anyone's standards & a little reminder that not all companys pay wouldn't go amiss. (& FYI talking about paying 6 months in advance, here in Busan you are asked for 1 years rent in advance!!! We managed to negogiate it down to 6 months! - it is surreal!!!)

Busan (Gijang - where Busan International Foreign School actually is)to Okpo every day is just too far in my opinion. I know many are doing the journey and I understand the lack of options. If it was truly commutable for my kids believe me we would choose to live in Okpo over Haeundae any day.

It is an absolute disgrace that 2 of the Worlds Largest Shipyards cannot provide adequate education for all foreign children on Geoje do.

We could have had a DSME Elementary ie. OIS and a lovely new Samsung Middle & High School!!! But no! OIS limps along and the older kids have to endure gruelling bus journeys.

& then you have the kids who are now homeschooled, those who were sent away very reluctantly to boarding schools, the mums who left with their children ahead of husbands projects finishing all because of the problems with education on Geoje.

I really really feel your pain!

Wishing you and your family all the best,
Angela.
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looking for school in Busan
Posted: 06 December 2012 - 05:34 PM
Why don't we just start our own school? Something akin to a homeschool collective.

I'm sure most if not all of us are educated, concerned parents. If we pool our knowledge and resources we may be able to educate our children together and benefit from one another's knowledge/areas of expertise.

My husband and I are moving to Busan in Feb2013 and we're also discouraged at the outlook for educating our two children (4 and 2). We expect to live in Busan long term but do not wish to pay the exorbitant fees charged by Okpo or Busan Foreign.

What would be great for us (and others too I imagine) is an alternative that is affordable.
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no alternative
Posted: 06 December 2012 - 07:07 PM
Its a great idea in theory. But as many companies (ours doesn't / never did!) pay the extortianate school fees the vast majority would choose to send their children to school. Some believe the schools are worth the money, some haven't got a clue how much they cost as "our company pays"!, and then some (us!) send our children as we have no choice. We know the schools in Busan are grossly overpriced compared to very good private schools in the UK. We do not get good value for money given the lack of resources and subject options.
I do believe school isn't just about the education (thank goodness!) but also the interaction of children with their peer groups & with other, in this case, foriegn / English speaking adults.
(I did homeschool my Year 7 daughter for 6 months, afternoons only, 2008/2009 when Okpo School totally lost the plot-then she attended GIFS for 6 months before we finally threw in the towel and moved to Busan).
I think it would feel isolating as a foreign child in a new 'strange' country being at home all day. Atleast at school they can mix with children in the 'same boat' as themselves. I personnally have tried to keep my children's lives as 'normal' as possible from babies to teens in Korea. Obviously the experience they have gained from living overseas and attending school with ever nationality under the sun is irreplacable. A lot of their life is centred around the school itself. There are very few other outlets for foreign children (especially as they get older).
I am also not 100% sure how you would go about starting an 'official' alternative to the International Schools here. A small unofficial homeschool group for young children is different. I know there are Korean kindergardens that take very young foreign children but eventually most foreign children on Geoje & in Busan will end up at Okpo School / Busan Int Schools (does anyone still travel the 3 hours to GIFS from Okpo?!). I am not sure foreign children are even allowed to attend Korean public schools? They would need to speak Korean fluently or be young enough to be immersed anyway. & the mixed Korean children I know who have attended were bullied until their parents removed them. There is big bucks to be made in providing education for foreigners at such an elevated rate (especially in Busan)I would have thought an independent company / business man would have cottoned on to this fact? Or has a 'block' been made to ensure there is no competition?! We will never know!! Busan International Foreign Schools building was given 'as a gift'! by Busan Government (I am guessing they would be the same people you need to go through to register 'your' proposed alternative foreign school?!)
Best of luck to you.
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lilley
Posted: 12 March 2014 - 08:50 PM
Hi all,
in the next three mnths me & my family are planning to move to geoji, im planning on home schooling. & just wondered if any one has set up a home schl network?
Or would any 1 like to set up a network?
Looking foward to an exciting journey!
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No school place at ISK!!
Posted: 17 September 2014 - 04:30 AM
Hello all - We are moving to Geoje from Perth in 3 weeks and the company has just told us that ISK cannot accommodate us until the new year. Maybe. We still want to come as a family but it looks like I will be home schooling for a short while until ISK has a spot for 2 of our children. (Currently Reception and Grade 1 Aussie boys. Is anyone in the same situation? Home schooling until ISK has a position? Has anyone else done this whilst waiting? What is the turn around time for the school? Does anyone have details of a nanny I could hire to play with my 2 year old during school hours whilst I'm (trying) to teach the kids? Many thanks to anyone who responds. I've had a few people suggest that the kids should stay in school here in Austraia and go to Geoje only when/if a placement becomes available. I think they are so little (7,5 and 2) that they would gain more from keeping the family together and experiencing another culture. Thoughts?
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Help please
Posted: 03 September 2015 - 01:11 AM
Hi all,
I came across this forum with the objective of knowing the pains and struggles of expat parents whose children are studying in Okpo or Busan. I've identified some such as:
-Quality of teachers
-High school students need to travel to Busan
-Enrolments fees (Overpriced?)
-Enrolment fees paid 6 months up front
-lack of subject options?

Did I miss something? I would love to hear from you guys..
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Dean
Posted: 26 February 2016 - 05:29 AM
Hi, My wife is home schooling our 3 children aged 6, 8 and 10. We are using the Brisbane School of Distance Education. Tonia and the kids only arrived last Saturday so still having some problems with setup. I'll get Tonia a phone next week but if anyone would like to contact her, the email is toniacecil@gmail.com. Alternatively my number is 010-4099-6936.

Cheers,

Dean Cecil
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